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Seriously....We have to start attacking this cult!!! Enough is enough!!
by DATA-DOG ini propose that we make pintrest accounts and start openly challenging this crap.. .
seriously.... any suggestions?
this crap cannot be left unchallenged.
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United States baptism stats 1969-2015
by the comet inwhenever the new yearbooks come out, we all look at the figures and see the publisher increase never really matches up with the baptism figures.
it never should match up as all newly baptized ones are already publishers, and may have been for many years.
i, as an example, became an unbaptized publisher at age 11. i didn't get baptized until i was 17. .
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finally got around to figuring in the death rates. total number of baptized from the 1969 service year through the 2015 service year, with death rates figured in at 1% is 1,462,208. One question i have is, what percentage of publishers are unbaptized? 10-15%? -
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United States baptism stats 1969-2015
by the comet inwhenever the new yearbooks come out, we all look at the figures and see the publisher increase never really matches up with the baptism figures.
it never should match up as all newly baptized ones are already publishers, and may have been for many years.
i, as an example, became an unbaptized publisher at age 11. i didn't get baptized until i was 17. .
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When I have time I will apply death rates to the numbers so I can avoid endlessly causing misunderstandings and misinformation. -
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Foreign language publishers and congregations in the United States
by the comet inin collecting the baptism figures for the u.s. i was reading through the yearbooks and came across an interesting paragraph.
in the 2007 yearbook page 16 it says the u.s. has 254,00 publishers in spanish speaking congregations and 26,000 in other languages.
it also had the figure of a total of 3,742 foreign language congregations.. that figures out to 30% of the total u.s. congregations are foreign language.
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Foreign language publishers and congregations in the United States
by the comet inin collecting the baptism figures for the u.s. i was reading through the yearbooks and came across an interesting paragraph.
in the 2007 yearbook page 16 it says the u.s. has 254,00 publishers in spanish speaking congregations and 26,000 in other languages.
it also had the figure of a total of 3,742 foreign language congregations.. that figures out to 30% of the total u.s. congregations are foreign language.
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In collecting the baptism figures for the u.s. i was reading through the yearbooks and came across an interesting paragraph. In the 2007 yearbook page 16 it says the u.s. has 254,00 publishers in spanish speaking congregations and 26,000 in other languages. It also had the figure of a total of 3,742 foreign language congregations.
That figures out to 30% of the total u.s. congregations are foreign language. and 26% of publishers are in foreign language, during the 2006 service year. If you took those same percentages out to today it would figure to 4,247 congregations and over 320,000 foreign language publishers. However i believe those numbers are probably higher, since I'm assuming the growth rate is the same in english as in foreign language.
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United States baptism stats 1969-2015
by the comet inwhenever the new yearbooks come out, we all look at the figures and see the publisher increase never really matches up with the baptism figures.
it never should match up as all newly baptized ones are already publishers, and may have been for many years.
i, as an example, became an unbaptized publisher at age 11. i didn't get baptized until i was 17. .
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i could use that chart, the only thing is it doesn't factor in age. i could do ballpark estimates using that chart. i used average because i think its a more accurate number as to the actual number of individual publishers versus number of reports. -
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United States baptism stats 1969-2015
by the comet inwhenever the new yearbooks come out, we all look at the figures and see the publisher increase never really matches up with the baptism figures.
it never should match up as all newly baptized ones are already publishers, and may have been for many years.
i, as an example, became an unbaptized publisher at age 11. i didn't get baptized until i was 17. .
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Why didn't I factor in the death rate? The simple answer is, I don't really know how to. In 1975 83,000 were baptized. i would have to factor in the death rate for 40 years. But then as time went by the death rate would be higher and higher as they got older. I just don't know how to go about doing that. -
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United States baptism stats 1969-2015
by the comet inwhenever the new yearbooks come out, we all look at the figures and see the publisher increase never really matches up with the baptism figures.
it never should match up as all newly baptized ones are already publishers, and may have been for many years.
i, as an example, became an unbaptized publisher at age 11. i didn't get baptized until i was 17. .
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Whenever the new yearbooks come out, we all look at the figures and see the publisher increase never really matches up with the baptism figures. It never should match up as all newly baptized ones are already publishers, and may have been for many years. I, as an example, became an unbaptized publisher at age 11. I didn't get baptized until i was 17.
What i wanted to do was add up all the baptism figures for the u.s in the last 70 years and see what that number would come out to. The first problem i ran into was, i couldn't find the baptism figures in the yearbooks pre the 1970 yearbook. So i started there. I went ahead and added Alaska and Hawaii to the u.s. figures, Alaska stopped reporting separate from the u.s. in the 2008 yearbook, and Hawaii in 2012.
Yearboook #baptized
1970------------29,954
1971------------39,445
1972------------40,814
1973------------48,428
1974------------56,190
1975------------83,038
1976------------72,607
1977------------44,244
1978------------28,276
1979------------20,711
1980------------27,187
1981------------28,028
1982------------28,715
1983------------34,011
1984------------36,630
1985------------35,912
1986------------34,677
1987------------42,161
1988------------39,519
1989------------43,519
1990------------48,769
1991------------47,697
1992------------44,984
1993------------41,170
1994-------------42,054
1995------------39,502
1996----------44,317
1997-----------44,060
1998----------45,607
1999----------37,673
2000----------32,871
2001---------30,536
2002---------27,973
2003---------30,112
2004---------30,584
2005---------30,989
2006---------28,628
2007---------29,140
2008---------37,509
2009---------35,804
2010---------34,842
2011--------35,516
2012---------32,953
2013---------32,039
2014---------32,118
2015----------36,034
2016----------28,353
grand total-----1,794,385 (check my math, I probably made a calculation error)
so in the 1970 yearbook the u.s. had 343,673 avg publishers, again no idea how many are unbaptized versus baptized. 2016 avg publisher count is1,195,081. Without figuring in death rates you have well over 500,000 people missing. My next project is, how many foreign language publishers and cong. are there in the u.s.
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Watchtower financial yearbook statements 1989-2016
by the comet insince the 2016 yearbook yearbook was released i've been tearing through the numbers, trying to figure a few things out.
i have several different projects i'm working on, and this is one of them.
i looked through all the yearbooks from the 1989 one through 2016, the only thing they really state about money is how much they spent on; special pioneers, missionaries, and traveling overseers.
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Watchtower financial yearbook statements 1989-2016
by the comet insince the 2016 yearbook yearbook was released i've been tearing through the numbers, trying to figure a few things out.
i have several different projects i'm working on, and this is one of them.
i looked through all the yearbooks from the 1989 one through 2016, the only thing they really state about money is how much they spent on; special pioneers, missionaries, and traveling overseers.
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Since the 2016 yearbook yearbook was released I've been tearing through the numbers, trying to figure a few things out. I have several different projects I'm working on, and this is one of them. I looked through all the yearbooks from the 1989 one through 2016, the only thing they really state about money is how much they spent on; special pioneers, missionaries, and traveling overseers. From 2002 and on, at least what i could find, they also say the number of branch workers worldwide.
A few things really stand out to me. The amount of money they're spending seems to be spiraling out of control. In 1989 they spent 29.8 million (remember this figure is just what they spend on special pioneers, missionaries and traveling overseers) adjusted for inflation its about 60 million. The number increases every year, as you would expect it to. If we jump to 2002 its at 70.9 million (96.6 million adjusted for inflation) a 41 million dollar increase. Jump ahead another 13 years, to 2015 its at 224 million or a 153 million dollar increase.
To put things in perspective, In the 1989 yearbook you had an average of 3,430,926 publishers worldwide. The 2016 yearbook had 7,987,279 avg publishers, an increase of 132%. During the same time span their spending increased, adjusted for inflation, 293%.
Looking at this you can really see why they have to downsize the number of special pioneers, the costs are getting out of control. Anyway i found some of this interesting, my next project is looking at total number of baptisms in the united states from 1970 through today, trying to figure out where did all those people go?